tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post5154465479607220964..comments2024-03-06T00:16:47.795-08:00Comments on Ghost Drinker: SKUNKED Beer???Ghost Drinkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-74018670737294245492023-08-21T22:58:43.147-07:002023-08-21T22:58:43.147-07:00"Skunked Beer" is a humorous and relatab..."Skunked Beer" is a humorous and relatable exploration of an unfortunate experience. <a href="https://www.doccheck.com/en/detail/articles/43707-how-to-watch-nba-all-star-game" rel="nofollow">How Watch Game</a> Its light-hearted narrative captures the universal mishaps we encounter, turning them into an amusing anecdote. Katokanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-61236102060485913432011-06-10T13:54:52.282-07:002011-06-10T13:54:52.282-07:00I did a similar experiment a couple of years ago w...<a href="http://thebittenbullet.blogspot.com/2009/04/now-i-know-what-skunked-is.html" rel="nofollow">I did a similar experiment a couple of years ago</a> with Heineken. There was a huge difference! Then again, I left it out in the blazing sun for days.Barry Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07367655129107699025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-33599800471383421112011-06-08T15:35:39.931-07:002011-06-08T15:35:39.931-07:00The scientific approach of course is to take two h...The scientific approach of course is to take two hoppy beers, pop the caps, decant one into a clear clean bottle, recap, leave on windowsill for a day and compare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-23866401021586176322011-06-08T06:30:58.394-07:002011-06-08T06:30:58.394-07:00Mark are you suggesting that Shepherd Neame or Bad...Mark are you suggesting that Shepherd Neame or Badger beers are likely to already be light struck, as they come in clear bottles? Or that they are good candidates for use in another experiment?Neil, Eating isn't Cheatinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08675093938811871515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-89373646655108993682011-06-08T02:18:34.501-07:002011-06-08T02:18:34.501-07:00Interesting experiment, now repeat it, but leave t...Interesting experiment, now repeat it, but leave the bottles in a windows sill for a week and see what happens... I think Mark's idea of using Greene King, Sheps, or Badger is a good idea too.Bobhttp://beer.bobarnott.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-31828034502742685912011-06-08T02:16:14.281-07:002011-06-08T02:16:14.281-07:00Very interesting experiment, from the sounds of it...Very interesting experiment, from the sounds of it it just needed more time to spoil.<br /><br />Does that mean beers left under the lights on a pub's back bar display do not skunk?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521839418245787540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-36228857387771578352011-06-08T00:28:19.825-07:002011-06-08T00:28:19.825-07:00Dave makes some good points, especially that not e...Dave makes some good points, especially that not everyone is sensitive to skunked flavour. I'm sensitive to it so have rarely found a beer in clear bottles that I liked.<br /><br />You should try and leave them for longer to see what happens. I'd also suggest using a different beer. Mark from BeerBirraBier left one Greene King IPA on a windowsill for a few weeks and the other in a dark cupboard. When we tried them side-by-side I was almost sick from the skunked one - it was horrific. <br /><br />Try any Shepherd Neame or Badger beer as they are pretty much all affected by lightstrike. It's a moldy, bad breath kind of aroma, a little like rotting veg. <br /><br />And you can produce beers which don't get affected as much (Corona is an good example, I'd guess) but it means treating the hell out of it.Mark Dredgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421095862178324693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-10185769793651164162011-06-07T16:38:19.794-07:002011-06-07T16:38:19.794-07:00I'm really not sure what "skunked" b...I'm really not sure what "skunked" beer tastes like. How many people are? Sometimes I come across a rather duff bottle, but I don't know whether that is "skunked".<br /><br />Might it be something like "mouse" in cider, which some people can detect while others are completely oblivious?Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-34391772719808608712011-06-07T15:59:31.765-07:002011-06-07T15:59:31.765-07:00All this techno talk suggests that if a brewer wan...All this techno talk suggests that if a brewer wanted to produce a beer and use clear glass, they could and it would be safe from getting light-struck?Ghost Drinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-44239087477194184902011-06-07T15:43:55.888-07:002011-06-07T15:43:55.888-07:00As well as using isomerised hop extract, brewers u...As well as using isomerised hop extract, brewers using clear bottles will wash the yeast several times prior to pitching to minimise any hop carryover from the yeast and supernatant.bumpbyhttp://twitter.com/bumpbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-43631405134820466072011-06-07T15:07:54.853-07:002011-06-07T15:07:54.853-07:00From Charles Bamforth's book "Beer Is Pro...From Charles Bamforth's book "Beer Is Proof God Loves Us" (which I know I keep referencing, but it is really interesting): <br /><br />"We also exposed bottles of a famous beer in green glass bottles to bright sunlight [...] given to consumers alongside a sample of the beer that had not been "skunked" there was a 2:1 preference for the non-skunky beer, which still leaves a third of people preferring skunky beer."<br /><br />Bamforth also talks about Miller pioneering the development of modified hop preparations to prevent skunking in their clear glass bottles.<br /><br />Personally I can't yet identify a specific "skunked" flavour and would also like to educate myself in the defect.<br /><br />NickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-29837922386564767832011-06-07T12:00:56.869-07:002011-06-07T12:00:56.869-07:00It was very obvious when I did my light strike exp...It was very obvious when I did my <a href="http://edsbeer.blogspot.com/2009/04/drunk-as-skunk.html" rel="nofollow">light strike experiment</a>. Try using a something like a Brewdog beer, where you know they use lots of whole hops and you should notice it.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-67238934055854675562011-06-07T11:12:17.198-07:002011-06-07T11:12:17.198-07:00Baron- but how long should I keep my lager in the ...Baron- but how long should I keep my lager in the glass, in the sun, before I should expect any signs of spoilage??<br /><br />I definitely want to do some more experimentation though!!Ghost Drinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-55102018797825861972011-06-07T11:08:45.036-07:002011-06-07T11:08:45.036-07:00The scientist in me says that your next experiment...The scientist in me says that your next experiment should be with the brooklyn Lager poured out in a glass in sunlight compared to the beer straight from the darkness bottle - you could always open them both at the same time to ensure the same carbonation/aging/etc?Baron Ormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16440684094621860149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-15977359562479892752011-06-07T11:02:18.839-07:002011-06-07T11:02:18.839-07:00I know from the Beer Bloggers Conference that I...I know from the Beer Bloggers Conference that I'm not as sensitive as some people. Apparently it is possible to be completely immune.<br /><br />Apparently, just to make the whole situation worse, some people genuinely associate skunking with a quality beer. Really. This was said by one of the brewers sponsoring the Beer BC.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-89185671558273932612011-06-07T11:01:35.334-07:002011-06-07T11:01:35.334-07:00Ah see Dave already commented similarly with point...Ah see Dave already commented similarly with point 2.<br /><br />Double glazing wouldn't be practical for bottles Dave! I'm not sure whether its a coating on the glass or the fact that the light is refracted twice. I've read an article in a chemistry mag about it though. That's why people don't tend to get suntanned in their living rooms but can get tanned through a closed car window.beersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-29776043624401513922011-06-07T10:58:12.627-07:002011-06-07T10:58:12.627-07:00http://tinyurl.com/5up5kl4 just reading wikipedia ...http://tinyurl.com/5up5kl4 just reading wikipedia which pointed to this book. interestingly it said using hop extracts can overcome the skunking by avoiding isohumulones getting into the beer in the first place.<br /><br />Interesting experiment though!beersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-90054695905354675362011-06-07T10:55:59.092-07:002011-06-07T10:55:59.092-07:00Steve - No double glazing was involved.
Dave, you...Steve - No double glazing was involved.<br /><br />Dave, your 1 + 2 explanations make perfect sense, but I'd be dubious about the third. (but if I'm impervious to skunk aromas I will call myself a modern superhero from now on!)Ghost Drinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00753576955816756710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-83958904247161762942011-06-07T10:54:42.186-07:002011-06-07T10:54:42.186-07:00Perhaps skunking is a myth? Or possibly you've...Perhaps skunking is a myth? Or possibly you've just proved that the ozone is fixed? Either way I think Dave Cameron needs to axe Trident and order Ossie to initiate Project SkunkPub Diarieshttp://www.pubdiaries.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-81738484883890033872011-06-07T10:54:15.508-07:002011-06-07T10:54:15.508-07:00Steve, I'm not convinced double glassing stops...Steve, I'm not convinced double glassing stops UV. If so then we could start using the same glass for beer bottles.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-7373708018375406422011-06-07T10:51:49.266-07:002011-06-07T10:51:49.266-07:00There are at least three explanations:
1. You are...There are at least three explanations:<br /><br />1. You are not sensitive to skunk smells.<br /><br />2. The clear bottled beers are made with hop extract that is treated to avoid the effect of skunking.<br /><br />3. The beers that are prone to skunking, are already skunked. You may already associate the skunk aroma with beer. Apparently they become skunked quite quickly and can even be effected by fluorescent lights.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446619919848028712.post-89435530599552377922011-06-07T10:51:27.303-07:002011-06-07T10:51:27.303-07:00First thing that comes to mind is that if you have...First thing that comes to mind is that if you have double glazing the UV wouldn't get though in any casebeersiveknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293913182389157112noreply@blogger.com